The tides were running against Jelly Roll now. He had hoped, he said later, to get Barney Bigard, Albert Nicholas, and other leading side-men for the band he was asked to bring to Hollywood, but "Those gangsters and their gunmen said they'd kill me if I tried to get those boys away from the Savoy in Harlem." One day Billie Young, who helped in the office when she had no club date, broke out with that hoodoo rash. . . . The Victor contract was not being renewed. Jelly Roll tried to compete with the swing bands. He certainly played all the gig dates he could get in the next few years, ducking in and out of other bands. Only two recording dates are remembered, although others doubtless will be. With the Mannone orchestra he is said to have played with Bud Freeman, Artie Shaw, John Kirby, and others. . ♦ .